I strongly believe the team’s decision to release the Turbo version of their model first was a stroke of genius. If you think about it, it’s an unusual move. Typically, an AI lab drops the heavy Base model first, and then weeks or months later, the Turbo or Lightning version follows. We could argue that Black Forest Labs (BFL) tried to do both by launching Flux Schnell alongside Dev and Pro, but that felt different—Schnell was treated more like a side dish than the main course.
Flux 2 Dev should have been the talk of the town this week. Instead, its hype was immediately killed by the release of Z-Image Turbo (ZIT). And rightfully so. You simply can’t ignore the insane speed-to-quality ratio when comparing the two.
Flux 2 is obviously the bigger model and packs superior raw quality, but it takes an eternity to generate an image. I think we would be seeing a completely different narrative if they had released the Z-Image Base model first. Realistically, the Base model would likely need 20–40 steps and high CFG to produce good results, effectively quadrupling the generation time. We’d be talking about 40–80 seconds per generation instead of the snappy 10–20 seconds we get with ZIT. In that timeline, I don’t think the hype for Flux 2 would have died anywhere near as quickly.
Conversely, imagine if a “Flux 2 Turbo” had dropped first—something capable of 8 steps and 30-second generations. We would be having a very different conversation right now, and this sub would be flooded with posts praising its balance of speed and fidelity.
If you release Base first, people say: “Wow, it’s beautiful, but it runs like a potato. I’ll wait for the quant/distillation.” => The hype is dampened by hardware requirements. This is exactly what happened when Flux2 was released.
If you release Turbo first, people say: “Holy cow, this is blazing fast and looks great! I wonder how insane the Base model will be?” => The hype is fueled by curiosity.
Moving forward, I believe this will be the new standard: Always release the Turbo version before the Base. Sharing your thoughts on this matter is much appreciated.
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